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when crate training a dog how do you keep them from going potty in the crate?

I take him out all the time to go potty and he knows to go out side, but when he gets to run around the house he is like a “turdene” and slips and poops somewhere…..and when he is in his crate he just goes potty in there!!!! I my wits end! he is bout 3 months old.

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11 comments to when crate training a dog how do you keep them from going potty in the crate?

  • BunnuvaSitch

    How often is “all the time”? Every hour?

    He’s pooping in your house because he isn’t being properly supervised. Keep him on a leash ATTACHED TO YOU when he’s out of his crate, so that when you see signs of him needing to go you can get him outside immediately.

  • rimbaudrambo

    Crate training is the cruelest fad in dog training. I’d say not to crate train at all.

    Dogs thrive on being with their people. The reason for getting a dog should be to make them an integral part of your daily life, and in turn be adaptive to new surroundings, people, situations, etc… An adaptive dog is one who can be comfortable in any situation (as long as they’re with you) and therefore doesn’t stress out (and in turn have behavioral problems) and, through developed worldliness and a close bond, means they don’t feel the need for a safe haven such a crate.

    Crate training goes against this, as it creates a power dynamic which separates them from you, makes their place in the family conditional (if they misbehave, they go into the crate/are removed from the family), and are allowed to act on fear in new situations, making them want to retreat to the crate when uncomfortable or increase the risk of them becoming aggressive when stressed and unable to find that safe haven.

    I know many people swear by crates, but I’ve never known 1 crate trained dog who can be taken into large crowds/new situations, on long roadtrips, etc… without being noticeably stressed. It’s like raising a kid… if you allow them to run and hide every time something makes them uncomfortable, they’ll become sheltered and withdrawn… so you force them to do things, put themselves out there, etc… Now imagine the former (to an extreme… in a cage) with an animal that pees and/or bites when upset.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if his inclination to pee in the crate is due to stress, as dogs by nature won’t urinate/defecate where they also sleep (so the fact that he’s doing so indicates an emotional/psychological problem).

  • ???? messing with my breed..?rottweilers™

    You need to make sure the crate isn’t too big, if it is you just need a crate divider(you probably got one in your crate when you bought it) At three months old he should be able to hold his bladder for about 4-6 hours. Smaller dogs can’t hold it as long since their bladder is smaller, so you may need to take him out in the middle of the night, it’s not like you didn’t think of that before you got him, right? Do not give him anything to eat or drink any sooner than an hour before going into the crate, but make sure he goes to the bathroom.

  • Dog Section Regular

    NO dog will be fully potty trained at 3 months.

    Maybe the crate it too big. It should be big enough just for him to stand up, and turn around comfortably. Don’t give the dog enough room to potty in the crate.

    Take him out every hour. Thoroughly clean up the mess. Don’t punish when he goes inside.

  • Kate

    Potty-training is a little different for every dog. I just had our girls fixed; one is fine and the other’s acting like she has totally forgotten everything we ever taught her about potty training this week. Super frustrating but she’ll get through it.

    Your puppy needs patience and praise. He’ll respond best when you praise him for doing something right.
    When you’re crate-training, you can’t leave him alone in there for hours at a time. It should be more like 2-5 minutes at first and gradually built up from there. He needs to be introduced to the crate, overcome his fear of it. And if he’s going potty in there, it means you guys have a problem communicating.

    Dogs actually don’t like to mess in “their house,” so part of the solution involves getting your pet to think of your home as its space that it wants to keep clean. Our dogs sleep in the kitchen, partly because then they can’t make too many messes and partly because they don’t like going potty in such confined quarters, so they’re more likely to tell us if they need to go out in the middle of the night. Blocking off part of your house with a baby gate or door as a “no pet zone” may help.

    Your previous poster is right on. You aren’t paying enough attention to your dog. Stay on him for a week or two, reward good behavior and he should improve quite a bit.

  • nose

    if the pup is having a run around the house, you have to watch like a hawk cuz the second they slow down they will want to go to the bathroom … if he is small enough you can scoop him up and get him outside fast otherwise stop the play and bring the pup out … second, how big is the crate … the crate should only be big enough to stand up and turn around … dogs rarely will sleep where they soil … but if the crate is big enough for him to go in one area and lie down in another, it is defeating the purpose of crate training … and being only three months old are you taking him out every few hours, after every meal, after every drink of water, after every play session ??? and have some patience, it is a 3 month old dog … it is like expecting a newborn not to soil their diapers …

  • NS

    LOL….Crate training, when done correctly, is not cruel…or a fad!

    To the poster who described his idea of crate training, that is not crate training. If you are creating a dog that is scared and goes to his crate all the time or using the crate as punishment, that is not crate training.

    I have had 20 dogs in my house over the last 6 years (4 of my own, the others were fosters) not to mention boarders that I look after, and I can take my dogs ANYWHERE and not worry about them being “over crate trained”. Social isolation is a part of life, everyone needs their time to themselves, dogs included. Having a dog that is comfortable being alone is a balanced, confident dog – not an unusual one. My dogs participate in 3 clubs (Obedience, Agility and Schutzhund), they do demos for Canada Day and our local Horse Show with hundreds of people watching, they walk in the parade with horses, vehicles, sirens and people everywhere, we also do bite prevention workshops for kids. How you described crate training is the exact WRONG way to go about it.

    Educate yourself rather than pass on wrong information please, it will really help the rest of us.

    For the OP, the other suggestions about taking the dog out every hour and rewarding every time he goes outside, and more management inside, is good advice. At 3 months old, you will take him out for every hour, then every 2, then every 3 ONCE he has a little understanding about where to go. If you find he is taking a long time to go once outside, get him moving by throwing a toy, or walking around the block, this will get everything moving along faster than you just standing there waiting for him to go.

  • KK

    to keep him from going potty in the crate make the crate size only big enough so he can get up and turn around in

  • Tricia Beaver

    You have to make sure the crate isn’t big. Just large enough for it to stand. And make the dog sleep in the kennel. They wont poo where they sleep.

  • RAWR!ImAMonster

    how often is that? take him out every hour, and when ur not watching him, its crate time or attach a leash to ur belt loop or something.
    the crate should be big enough for the pup to lay down, turn around, stand up, and stretch comfortably. no bigger.
    take the dog to the vet if he keeps pottying in his crate, could be an incection or something.

  • Michael

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